The name struck a chord in James's memory. Was it possible after 40 years Charlie was still pulling strings from prison? Captain Shelton's words came back to him. She was right there were a great deal of references to The Family and not just at the hospital.
"Clem?" questioned Summers.
"Steve Grogan," James quickly answered.
"That's right," replied Cherney.
"Is there anyway we can confirm it's really him?" asked Summers.
Cherney began flipping pages from the large folder on his lap. "Well until his fingerprints grow back I think we're gonna have to take his word for it. Or at least his written statement anyway. As his language skills are pretty limited. He doesn't have a tongue."
"Christ, did he cut out his tongue too?" asked James.
"No the Aryan Brotherhood did that for him in prison. Perfect way to silence a snitch. Apparently Charlie really does have a long reach from behind bars."
"You're telling me, Manson ordered the Aryan Brotherhood to silence Clem by cutting out his tongue," said Summers.
"I am yes. But that's not the weird part."
"Oh you mean it actually gets weirder?" questioned James. Cherney nodded, crushed out his cigarette and lit another.
"According to the police files, Clem was arrested for the murder of Donald 'Shorty' Shea. Manson was also part of that murder. Only Clem wasn't arrested and imprisoned until after Manson had his own trial. Clem and Charlie were sent to separate prisons."
"So Charlie got word to the A.B. to keep him quiet about killing Shorty?" asked James. Cherney shook his head no. "No, Charlie didn't give a shit at that point. He was already on death row for Tate/LaBianca, so it didn't matter if the Hinman murder or killing of Shorty were added to his sentence. You could only kill Charlie once. No, this is where it gets weird. He told me, Charlie had said something to him that he could never tell anyone," said Cherney pausing. "He didn't come here to kill you, Tom. He came to kill Miss Summers."
Summers and James both looked bewildered. "What are you talking about? Why would he be after Miss Summers?"
"He told you that? That he came here to kill me?" asked Summers. Cherney nodded.
"Just exactly when did Manson tell Clem to murder Miss Summers?" inquired James as he watched Cherney crush out another cigarette and then slowly look up to them both.
"1972."
Chapter Nineteen
1972
"I wasn't even alive in 1972," claimed Summers.
"I told you it was weird," remarked Cherney.
James stood up and tried to put it all together. "So let me get this straight, Doc. You're telling me everything that's happened in the last 48 hours all leads back to Charles Manson?"
"No I'm not saying that at all. What I am saying is the guy in the room with the two-way glass told me Charlie ordered him to kill Miss Summers."
"Thirteen years before I was born?"
"I didn't say any of it made any sense."
Summers stood up and slammed her notebook down. "I want to talk to him." James tried to calm her. "That may not be such a good idea. If he told Doc here he's on some kind of weird mission from Charlie to kill you then maybe part of his plan is to get you into the same room, close enough to fulfill Charlie's prophecy."
"I don't care, Tom. I want to talk to him and if you don't let me I can have 20 more agents here inside of half an hour and we will take over this case," commanded Summers.
James could see the determination in her eyes. "Okay, but you're not going in there alone. I want you to vest up and give me your sidearm," ordered James. He could see Summers did not like the idea of going inside unarmed. "It's not negotiable Ashton. Don't worry, I'm going to be standing right next to you and believe me if Clem makes any kind of sudden moves, they will be his last."
James, Summers and Dr. Cherney headed into the interview room. The moment Ashton stepped inside Clem began to laugh and point his handcuffed hands at her.
"I'm special agent Ashton Summers of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, it's my understanding you have communicated to Dr. Cherney you were instructed by Charles Manson in 1972 to kill me. Is that correct?" she asked as Clem stared glassy eyed at her. He grinned and began to rock his body back and forth and nodded yes.
"Do you mind telling me how this is possible, since I wasn't born yet?" The three of them watched Clem scribble onto Summers yellow legal pad the answer. "Charlie knows everything."
"Charlie's in prison, Clem. He's been there since 1970," said James as Clem turned ignoring his comment. Cherney interjected, "Clem, why would Charlie want Miss Summers dead?"
Clem quickly scribbled again on the pad of paper. "Only the sow knows why."
Cherney turned his head sideways as he read Clem's scrawl. "The sow? What the hell does that mean?" asked Cherney, his temper beginning to flare. He jerked Clem's chair around to face him, "You think you're real fucking funny don't you asshole! It's not enough you spin this hippie bullshit on everyone, but then you have to insult Miss Summers on top of it all!" James pulled the angry doctor away from Clem, while Summers continued to try and find out exactly why Charles Manson wanted her dead.
"Clem, never mind that. Look at me. Tell me why. If you don't tell me, you're going to rot in prison for trying to kill a federal officer and no one will ever know. Now is your chance to be heard and believed. If you don't take it now, everyone from here on out will think you're just crazy old Clem. The old burnt out hippie, who is still following Charles Manson like some psychedelic pied piper." Clem looked directly into Summers eyes. She had his complete and undivided attention. "Come on Clem, tell me, I'm listening, why does he want me dead?"
Clem slowly reached out for the pen and legal pad without removing his gaze from her. Her eyes held his. She knew if she looked at the pad he might stop and never tell her. "That's right Clem, it's okay tell me. I'll believe you."
As Clem began to write a loud shout came from outside the interview room. "Open that fucking door right now!" demanded a firm male voice. Summers, James and Cherney all looked towards the door in unison as it flew open. Clem began to write faster.
A tall, scruffy looking man stood holding a weather-beaten leather brief case in his hand. He looked wildly at the three of them. "Are you fucking kidding me? You assholes are interrogating my client without his attorney present? Do you seriously want to just give millions of taxpayer dollars away? Get the fuck out of here!" he commanded. Cherney stepped up. "Hold on a second. Your client has not only committed murder this morning, but also attempted to murder three law enforcement officials—one of them being a Federal Agent," shouted Cherney as he got back into the attorneys face.
"Back off!" shouted the attorney, shoving Cherney away.
James and Summers stepped in. "Your Clem's attorney?" asked James. "My name is Rolan Chessman and his name is Steve Grogan not Clem. Get your facts straight."
Captain Shelton stepped into the doorframe of the interview room. Her solid figure and calm voice brought the volatility of the room back to a professional tone. "Mr. Chessman, tend to your client and lose the vulgar language while you're in my department, as for the rest of you, I want all of you out here right now," she said quietly, stepping back into the main room.
James, Summers and Cherney filed out like scolded children. She pulled a finger to the three of them. As they walked to her the four of them formed what appeared to be a huddle. The Captain's demeanor changed instantly. "You guys get anything out of him?"
"A lot of hippie nonsense Cap," chimed Cherney. "He didn't want to talk to us, just Agent Summers," said James. Summers seemed confused by the whole change in the Captain's attitude but then realized it was all a front for the sake of Chessman. Shelton gave Summers a look that asked for information. "So Miss Summers? What did he write down?"