S: A calmness ... tranquility ... love ...
Dr. N: Do you and Rachel actually look at each other with eyes in a human way?
S: (hesitates) Sort of... but different. You see the mind behind what we take to be eyes, because that is what we relate to on Earth. Of course, we can do the same thing as humans on Earth, too ...
Dr. N: What can you do on Earth with your eyes that can also be done in the spirit world?
S: When you look into a certain person's eyes on the ground-even people you have just met-and see a light you have known before ... well, that tells you something about them. As a human you don't know why-but your soul remembers.
Note: I have heard about the light of spiritual identity being reflected in the human eyes of a soulmate expressed in a variety of ways from many clients. As for myself, I have knowingly experienced this instant recognition only once in my life at the moment I first saw my own wife. The effect is startling, and a bit eerie as well.
Dr. N: Are you saying that sometimes on Earth when two people look at each other, they may feel they have known one another before?
S: Yes, it's deja vu.
Dr. N: Let's go back to Rachel in the spirit world. If your guardian did not project an image of herself in human form to you, would you have known her anyway?
S: Well, naturally we can always identify each other by the mind. But, it's nicer this way. I know it sounds crazy, but it's a ... social thing ... seeing a familiar face puts you at ease.
Dr. N: Seeing human features of people you knew in past lives is a good thing then, particularly in the readjustment period right after leaving Earth?
S: Yeah, otherwise you feel a little lost at first ... lonesome ... and maybe confused, too ... seeing people as they were helps me get used to things here faster when I first come back, and seeing Rachel is always a big boost.
Dr. N: Does Rachel present herself to you in human form right after each death on Earth as a way of getting you readjusted to the spirit world?
S: (eagerly) Oh, yes-she does! And she gives me security. I feel better when I see others I have known before too ...
Dr. N: And do you speak to these people?
S: No one speaks, we communicate by the mind.
Dr. N: Telepathically?
S: Yes.
Dr. N: Is it possible for souls to have private conversations which cannot be telepathically picked up by others?
S: (pause) ... for intimacy-yes.
Dr. N: How is this done?
S: By touch-it's called touching communication.
Note: When two spirits come so close to each other they are conjoined, my subjects say they can send private thoughts by touch which passes between them as "electrical sound impulses." In most instances, subjects in hypno sis do not wish to talk to me about these personal confidences.
Dr. N: Could you clarify for me how human features can be projected by you as a soul?
S: From ... my mass of energy ... I just think of the features I want ... but I can't tell you what gives me the ability to do this.
Dr. N: Well, then, can you tell me why you and the other souls project certain features at different times?
S: (long pause) It depends on where you are in your movements around here ... when you see another ... and your state of mind then.
Dr. N: That's what I want to get at. Tell me more about recognition.
S: You see, recognition depends on a person's ... feelings when you meet them here. They will show you what they want you to see of themselves and what they think you want to see. It also depends on the circumstances of your meeting with them.
Dr. N: Can you be more specific? What different circumstances can cause energy forms to materialize in a certain way toward other spirits?
S: It is the difference between your being on their turf or your turf. They may choose to show you one set of features in one place, while in another you might see something else.
Note: Spiritual "territory" will be explained as we proceed further into the spirit world.
Dr. N: Are you telling me that a soul may show you one face at the gateway to the spirit world and another image later in a different situation?
S: That's right.
Dr. N: Why?
S: Like I was telling you, a lot of how we present ourselves to each other depends on what we are feeling right then ... what relationship we have with a certain person and where we are.
Dr. N: Please tell me if I understand all this correctly. The identity souls project to each other depends on timing and location in the spirit world as well as mood, and maybe psychological states of mind when they meet?
S: Sure, and it works both ways ... it's interconnecting.
Dr. N: Then, how can we know the true character of a soul's consciousness with all these changes in each other's image?
S: (laughs) The image you project never hides who you really are from the rest of us. Anyway, it's not the same kind of emotion we know on Earth. Here it is more ... abstract. Why we project certain features and thoughts ... is based on a ... confirmation of ideas.
Dr. N: Ideas? Do you mean your sentiments at the time?
S: Yes ... sort of ... because these human features were part of our physical lives in other places when we discovered things ... and developed ideas ... it is all a ... continuum for us to use here.
Dr. N: Well, if in each of our past lives we have a different face, which one do we assume between lives?
S: We mix it up. You assume those features which the person you see will most recognize as you, depending on what you want to communicate.
Dr. N: What about communication without projecting features?
S: Sure, we do that-it's normal-but I mentally associate with people more quickly with features.
Dr. N: Do you favor projecting a certain set of facial features?
S: Hmm ... I like the face with the mustache ... having a rock-hard jaw ...
Dr. N: You mean when you were Jeff Tanner, the cowpuncher from Texas in the life we discussed earlier?
S: (laughs) That's it-and I have had faces like Jeff's in other lives, too.
Dr. N: But, why Jeff? Was it just because he was you in your last life?
S: No, I felt good as Jeff. It was a happy, uncomplicated life. Damn, I looked great! My face resembled those billboard smoking ads you used to see along the highway. (chuckling) I enjoy showing off my handle-bar mustache as Jeff.
Dr. N: But that was only one life. People not associated with you in that life may not recognize you here.
S: Oh, they would get it was me soon enough. I could change to something else, but I like myself as Jeff the best right now.
Dr. N: So, this goes back to what you were saying about all of us really only having one identity, regardless of the number of facial features we might project as souls?
S: Yeah, you see everyone as they truly are. Some only want their best side to show because of what you might think of them-they don't fully appreciate that it is what you are striving for which is important, not how you appear. We get a lot of laughs about how spirits think they should look, even taking faces they never had on Earth, and that's okay.
Dr. N: Are we talking about the more immature souls, then?
S: Yes, usually. They can get stuck ... we don't judge ... in the end they are going to be all right.
Dr. N: I think of the spirit world as a place of supreme all-knowing intelligent consciousness and you make it appear that souls have moods and vanity as though they were back on Earth?
S: (burst of laughter) People are people no matter how they look on their physical worlds.
Dr. N: Oh, do you see souls who have gone to planets other than Earth?
S: (pause) Once in a while ...
Dr. N: What features do souls from other planets besides Earth show you?
S: (evasively) I ... kind of stick with my own people, but we can assume any features we want for communication ...
Note: Gaining information from the subjects I have had who are able to recall leading physical past lives in non-human form on other worlds is always challenging. Recollection of these experiences are usually limited to older, more advanced souls, as we will see later.