Note: Subjects frequently use the term "world" to describe non-physical spatial work areas. These regions can be tiny or indescribably large in relation to the soul and may involve different dimensions. I believe there are separate realities for different learning experiences outside the restrictions of time. The coexistence of past, present, and future time in spiritual settings suggested by this case will be explored further in the next two chapters with Cases 23 and 25.
Dr. N: We haven't talked about the World of Creation and Non-creation. This must be the three-dimensional physical world you spoke of earlier.
S: Yes, and we enjoy using it as well.
Dr. N: Is this world intended for the use of all souls?
S: No, it is not. I'm just starting to apply myself there. I am considered a newcomer.
Dr. N: Well, before we get into that, I want to ask if this physical world is the same as Earth.
S: No, it is a little different. It's larger and somewhat colder. There is less water-fewer oceans, but similar.
Dr. N: Is this planet further from its sun than Earth is from our sun?
S: Yes.
Dr. N: If I could call this physical world Earth II, since it seems to be geographically similar to the Earth we know, would it be near Earth I in the sky?
S: No.
Dr. N: Where is Earth II in relation to Earth I?
S: (pause) I can't tell you.
Dr. N: Is Earth II in our Milky Way galaxy?
S: (long pause) No, I think it's further away.
Dr. N: Could I see the galaxy Earth II is located in with a telescope from my backyard?
S: I ... would think so.
Dr. N: Would you say the galaxy containing this physical world is shaped like a spiral as our galaxy, or is it elliptical? How would it look in a telescope from a long way off?
S: ... as a great extended ... chain ... (with a troubled expression) I can't tell you more.
Note: As an amateur stargazer who uses a large reflector telescope designed for deep sky objects, I am always inquisitive when a session takes an astronomical turn. Client responses to these kinds of questions usually fall short of my expectations. I am never sure if this is due to blocking by guides or the subject's lack of a physical frame of reference between Earth and the rest of our universe.
Dr. N: (I throw out a leading question) I suppose you go to Earth II to reincarnate with some sort of intelligent being?
S: (loudly) No! That's just what we don't want to do there.
Dr. N: When do you go to Earth II?
S: Between my lives on this Earth.
Dr. N: Why do you go to Earth II?
S: We go there to create and just enjoy ourselves as free spirits.
Dr. N: And you don't bother the inhabitants of Earth II?
S: (enthusiastically) There are no people ... it's so peaceful ... we roam among the forests, the deserts, and over oceans with no responsibilities.
Dr. N: What is the highest form of life on Earth II?
S: (evasive) Oh ... small animals ... without much intelligence.
Dr. N: N. Do animals have souls?
S: Yes, all living things do-but they have very simple fragments of mind energy.
Dr. N: Has your soul, and that of your friends, evolved from using lower forms of physical life on Earth I after your creation?
S: We don't know for sure, but none of us thinks so.
Dr. N: Why not?
S: Because intelligent energy is arranged by ... a precedence of life. Plants, insects, reptiles-each is in a family of souls.
Dr. N: And all categories of living things are separated from each other?
S: No. The maker's energy joins the units of every living thing in existence.
Dr. N: Are you involved with this element of creation?
S: (startled) Oh, no!
Dr. N: Well, who is selected to visit Earth II?
S: Those of us who are connected with Earth come here. This is a vacation spot compared to Earth.
Dr. N: Why?
S: There is no fighting, bickering, or striving for supremacy. There is a pristine atmosphere and all life is ... quiet. This place gives us an incentive to return to Earth and make it more peaceful, too.
Dr. N: Well, I do see how this Garden of Eden would allow you to rest and be carefree, but you also said you come here to create.
S: Yes, we do.
Dr. N: It is no accident then that souls from Earth come to a world that is so similar geographically?
S: That's right.
Dr. N: Do other souls, who are not earthbound, go to physical worlds which resemble those planets where they incarnate?
S: Yes ... younger worlds with simpler organisms ... to learn to create without any intelligent life around.
Dr. N: Go on.
S: We can experiment with creation and see it developing here. It's as if you were in a lab where you can form physical things from your energy.
Dr. N: Do these physical things resemble what you might see on Earth I?
S: Yes, only on Earth. That's why I am here.
Dr. N: Start with your arrival on Earth II and explain to me what your soul does first.
S: (balks at my question and then finally says) I'm ... not very good.
Note: Since this subject is experiencing resistance, I take a few minutes for reconditioning and end with the following: "On the count of three you will feel more relaxed about telling me what you and Idis consider appropriate for my knowledge. One, two, three!" I repeat my question.
S: I look to see what I am supposed to make on the ground in front of me. Then I mold the object in my mind and try and create the same thing with small doses of energy. The teachers assist us with ... control. I'm supposed to see my mistakes and make corrections.
Dr. N: Who are the teachers?
S: Idis and Mulcafgil (subject's highly advanced guide) ... and there are other instructors around ... I don't know them very well.
Dr. N: Try to be as clear as possible. What exactly are you doing?
S: We ... form things ...
Dr. N: Living things?
S: I'm not ready for that yet. I experiment with the basic elementsyou know, hydrogen and oxygen-to create planetary substance ... rocks, air, water ... keeping everything very small.
Dr. N: Do you actually create the basic elements of our universe?
S: No, I just use the elements available.
Dr. N: In what way?
S: I take the basic elements and charge them with impulses from my energy ... and they can change.
Dr. N: Change into what?
S: (simply) I'm good with rocks ...
Dr. N: How do you form rocks with your energy?
S: Oh ... by learning to heat and cool ... dust ... to make it hard.
Dr. N: Do you make the minerals in the dust?
S: They do that for you ... the teachers give us that stuff... gas vapors for water making ... and so on ...
Dr. N: I want to understand this clearly. Your work consists of learning to create by causing heat, pressure, and cooling from your energy flow?
S: That's about right-by alternating our currents of energy radiation.
Dr. N: So, you don't actually produce the substance of rock and wa ter in some chemical way?
S: No, like I told you, my job is to transform things by ... mixing what I am given. I play with the frequency and dosages of my energy-it's tricky, but not too complicated ...
Dr. N: Not complicated! I thought nature did those things?
S: (laughs) Who do you think nature is?
Dr. N: Well, who creates the basic elements of your experimentsthe primary substances of physical matter?
S: The maker ... and those creating on a grander scale than me.
Dr. N: Well, in a sense you are creating inanimate objects such as rocks.
S: Hmm ... it's more our trying to copy what we see in front of us ... what we know. (as an afterthought) I'm getting into plants ... but I can't do them yet.
Dr. N: And you start small, experimenting until you get better?
S: That's it. We copy things and compare them against the original so we can make larger models.
Dr. N: This all sounds like souls playing as children in a sandbox with toys.