Dr. N: How about Kumara's energy color?
S: It's violet.
Dr. N: How does light and color identify the quality of a soul's spiritual attainment?
S: The intensity of mental power increases with the darker phases of light.
Dr. N: Where does the highest intensity of intelligent light energy originate from?
S: The knowledge by which the energy of darker light is extended to us comes from the source. Our light is attached to the source.
Dr. N: When you say source-you mean God?
S: That word has been misused.
Dr. N: How?
S: By too much personalizing, which makes the source less than it is.
Dr. N: What's wrong with us doing that?
S: It takes the liberty of making the source too ... human, although we are all part of its oneness.
Dr. N: Thece, I want you to reflect on the source as we talk about other aspects of soul life and the spirit world. Later, I will ask you more about this oneness. Now, let's go back to the energy manifestations of souls. Why do spirits display two black glowing cavities for eyes when not showing their human forms? It seems so spooky to me.
S: (laughs and is more relaxed) That's how Earth's legends of ghosts came about-from these memories. Our energy mass is not uniform. The eyes you speak of represent a more concentrated intensity of thought.
Dr. N: Well, if the myths about ghosts are not so fanciful after all, then these black eye sockets must be useful extensions of their energy.
S: Rather than eyes ... they are windows to old bodies ... and all the physical extensions of former selves. This blackness is a ... concentration of our presence. We communicate by absorbing the energy presence of each other.
Dr. N: When you return to the spirit world, do you have energy contact with other souls who may look like ghosts?
S: Yes, and appearance is a matter of individual preference. Of course there is always a multitude of thought waves around memingling with my returning energy, but I avoid too much contact.
Dr. N: Why?
S: It is not necessary for me to make attachments here. I will be alone for a while to contemplate and sort out any mistakes from my last incarnation, before talking to Kumara.
Note: This statement is typical of advanced souls returning to the spirit world, mentioned earlier in Case 9. However, this soul is so advanced she will have no deliberations with her guide until much later, and upon her request.
Dr. N: Perhaps we should talk about older souls for a minute. Does Kumara incarnate on Earth any more?
S: No, she doesn't.
Dr. N: Do you know others like Kumara who were here during the early times on Earth and don't come back any more?
S: (cautiously) A few ... yes ... many got on Earth early and got off before I came.
Dr. N: Did any stay?
S: What do you mean?
Dr. N: Advanced souls who keep coming back to life on Earth when they could stay in the spirit world.
S: Oh, you mean the Sages?
Dr. N: Yes, the Sages-tell me about them. (this is a new term for me, but I often pretend to know more than I do with advanced souls to elicit information)
S: (with admiration) They are the true watchers of Earth, you know ... to be here and keep watch over what is going on.
Dr. N: As highly advanced souls who continue to incarnate?
S: Yes.
Dr. N: Don't the Sages get tired of still hanging around Earth?
S: They choose to stay and help people directly because they are dedicated to Earth.
Dr. N: Where are these Sages?
S: (wistfully) They live simple lives. I first came to know some of them thousands of years ago. Today it's hard to see them ... they don't like cities much.
Dr. N: Are there many of them?
S: No, they live in small communities, or out in the open ... in the deserts and mountains ... in simple dwellings. They wander about, too ...
Dr. N: How does one recognize them?
S: (sighs) Most people don't. They were known as the oracles of truth in earlier times on Earth.
Dr. N: I know this sounds pragmatic, but wouldn't these old, highly developed souls be more useful helping humankind in positions of international leadership rather than being hermits?
S: Who said they were hermits? They prefer to be with the common people who are most affected by the movers and shakers.
Dr. N: What is the feeling one gets when meeting a Sage on Earth?
S: Ah ... you feel a special presence. Their power of understanding and the advice they give you is so wise. They do live simply. Material things mean nothing to them.
Dr. N: Are you interested in this sort of service, Thece?
S: Hmm ... no, they are saints. I welcome the time when I can stop incarnating.
Dr. N: Perhaps the word Sage could also be applied to souls like Kumara, or even with the entities to whom she turns for knowledge?
S: (pause) No, they are different ... they are beyond the Sages. We call them the Old Ones.
Note: I would place these beings beyond Level VI.
Dr. N: Are there many Old Ones working with souls at Kumara's level and above?
S: I don't think so ... compared to the rest of us ... but we feel their influence.
Dr. N: What do you feel in their presence?
S: (pensive) A ... concentrated power of enlightenment ... and guidance ...
Dr. N: Could the Old Ones be embodiments of the source itself?
S: It is not for me to say, but I don't think so yet. They must be close to the source. The Old Ones represent the purest elements of thought ... engaging in the planning and arranging of ... substances.
Dr. N: Could you clarify a bit more what you mean by these highly placed souls being close to the source?
S: (vaguely) Only that they must be close to conjunction.
Dr. N: Does Kumara ever talk about these entities who help her?
S: To me-only a little. She aspires to be of them, as we all do.
Dr. N: Is she getting close to the Old Ones in knowledge?
S: (faintly) She ... approaches, as I approach her. It is slow assimilating with the source, because we are not complete.
Once the duties of a guide are fully established for the advancing soul, it is necessary for these entities to juggle two balls. Besides completing their own unfinished business with continued (though less frequent) incarnations, they must also help others while in a discarnated state. Thece talks to me about this aspect of her soul life.
Dr. N: When you are back in the spirit world and come out of your self-imposed isolation, what do you ordinarily do then?
S: I join with members of my company.
Dr. N: How many souls are in your company?
S: Nine.
Dr. N: (jumping to the next conclusion too quickly) Oh, so the ten of you are a group of souls under the leadership of Kumara?
S: No, they are my responsibility.
Dr. N: Then, these nine entities are students whom you teach?
S: Hmm ... you could say that ...
Dr. N: And they are all in one group (cluster)-which, I assume, is your company?
S: No, my company is made up of two different groups.
Dr. N: Why is that?
S: They are in ... different progressions (levels).
Dr. N: And yet, you are the spiritual teacher for all nine?
S: I prefer to call myself a watcher. Three of my company are also watchers.
Dr. N: Well, who are the other six?
S: (matter-of-factly) People who don't watch.
Dr. N: I want to clarify this using my terms, if you will, Thece. If you are a senior watcher, three of your company must be what I would call junior guides?
S: Yes, but the words senior and junior-that portrays us as authoritarian, which we are not!
Dr. N: My intention is not to denote rank, for me it is just an easy identification of responsibility. Consider the word senior as meaning an advanced teacher. I would call Kumara a master teacher or possibly an educational director.
S: (shrugs) That's okay, I suppose, as long as director doesn't mean dictator.
Dr. N: It doesn't. Now, Thece, cast your mind to a place where you can see the energy colors of all your company. What do the six souls who are not watchers look like?