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S: (in a rush of words) Talu and Kalish have volunteered to be Steve's-my foster parents. They work together a lot.

Dr. N: What's the problem, then?

S: I just don't want them again so soon!

Dr. N: Slow down for me, Sumus. You have worked with these souls before?

S: (still muttering to himself) Yes, yes-but they are so hard for me to be with-especially Kalish. It's too soon. They were my in-laws in the German life.

Note: We digress for a few minutes while Sumus briefly explains a past life in Europe as a high-ranking army officer who neglected his family and was the object of scorn from his wife's influential parents.

Dr. N: Are you saying that Talu and Kalish lack the capability for the assignment of being your foster parents in Texas?

S: (shakes head with resignation) No, they know what they are doing. It's just that with Kalish, it's always a rough ride. She chooses to be people who are critical, demanding, cold ...

Dr. N: Does she always present that sort of behavior in human bodies?

S: Well, that's her style with me. Kalish is not a soul who engages easily with others. She is independent and very determined.

Dr. N: How about Talu as your adoptive father?

S: Stern ... allows Kalish to lead ... can be too detached ... emotionally private... I'm going to really rebel against them this time.

Dr. N: Okay, but will they teach you something?

S: Yes, I know they will, but I am still arguing about it. Jor and Eone come over.

Dr. N: What do you say next at this conference?

S: I want Eone to be my foster mother. They all laugh at me. Jor won't buy my explanations. He knows I am close to Eone.

Dr. N: Do they make fun of you, Sumus?

S: Oh no, it's not that way at all. Talu and Kalish question my reluctance to tackle my faults with them.

Dr. N: Well, I was getting the impression you thought these souls were ganging up on you to force a decision to join with the Texas baby.

S: That's not how it goes here. We are discussing my misgivings about the life itself.

Dr. N: But I thought you didn't like Talu and Kalish?

S: They know about me ... I need strict people or I ride over them. Everyone here sees I have a tendency to indulge myself. They convince me an easy life without them will be like treading water. Both of them are very disciplined.

Dr. N: Well, it sounds like you have about made up your mind to go with them into the Texas life.

S: (musing) Yes... they are going to make a lot of demands on me as a child... Kalish sarcastic ... Talu a perfectionist ... losing Eone... it's going to be a rough ride.

Dr. N: What will playing the roles of your parents do for Talu and Kalish?

S: Kalish and Talu are in different ... configurations than me. I'm not supposed to get all muddled up in their business. It has something to do with their being rigid people and overcoming pride.

Dr. N: When you are on Earth, does your soul-mind always know the reason why certain people who influence you positively or negatively are significant in your life?

S: Yes, but that doesn't mean the person I am in that life understands what my spirit knows. (smiles) That's what we should be able to figure out on Earth.

Dr. N: Which is what we are doing now?

S: Yeah ... and I am cheating a little with you helping, but it's okay, I can use it.

It does seem an enigma that the knowledge of who we really are as souls is so difficult for many of us to reach through our conscious minds. By now I'm sure the reader has discerned that even in a superconscious state, we do retain the ability to observe ourselves with a portion of the critical center of our conscious mentality. Assisting clients in reaching their inner selves by linking all facets of the mind is the most important part of my work in hypnotherapy.

I want Steve to gain insight into the motives for his behavior by understanding his soul. The dialogue which follows provides us with further disclosures as to why Sumus integrated into Steve's body. The spiritual conference with Jor, Eone, Talu, and Kalish is over and I have taken Sumus to a quiet setting in the spirit world for this discussion.

Dr. N: Tell me, Sumus, how much of who you really are as a soul identity is reflected in the human beings you have occupied?

S: Quite a lot-but no two bodies are alike. (laughs) Good body and soul mergers don't always happen, you know. I remember some of my former bodies more fondly than others.

Dr. N: Would you say your soul dominates or is subordinated by the human brain?

S: That's difficult to answer because there are subtle differences with the brain of each body which affects how we ... exhibit ourselves from that body. A human would be pretty vacant without us ... we treat earth bodies with respect, though.

Dr. N: What do you think human beings would be like without souls?

S: Oh, dominated by senses and emotions ...

Dr. N: And you believe each human brain causes you to react differently?

S: Well, that which I am ... is able to utilize some bodies better than others. I don't always feel fully attached to a human being. Some physical emotions are overpowering and I ... am not so effective.

Dr. N: Such as the high level of rage displayed by Steve's temperament, perhaps affected by the central nervous system of this body?

S: Yes, we inherit these things ...

Dr. N: But you knew what Steve would be like before you chose his body?

S: (in disgust) That's right, and it's typical of how I can make a bad situation worse. I am able to interpret only when the storms of the human mind are quiet, and yet I want to be stormy people.

Dr. N: What do you mean by interpret?

S: Interpret ideas ... make sense out of Steve's reactions to turmoil.

Dr. N: To be frank, Sumus, you sound like a stranger inside Steve's body.

S: I'm sorry to give you that impression. We don't control the human mind ... we try by our presence to ... elevate it to see ... meaning in the world and to be receptive to morality ... to give understanding.

Dr. N: That's all very well, but you use human bodies for your own development too, don't you?

S: Sure, it's a ... blending ... we give and take with our energy.

Dr. N: Oh, you tailor your energy to fit a host body?

S: It would be better to say I use different facets of expression, depending on the emotional drives of each body.

Dr. N: Let's get specific, Sumus. What is going on between you and Steve's brain at this time on Earth?

S: I ... have felt ... submerged ... sometimes my energy is tired and unresponsive to so much negativity.

Dr. N: Looking back to your choices of Haroum, Steve, and those other human bodies in between, do they all have traits in common which attracted you?

S: (long pause) I am a contact entity. I seek humans who involve themselves ... aggressively with others.

Dr. N: When I hear the word aggression, this means hostility to me as opposed to being assertive. Is this what you intended to say?

S: (pause) Well, I'm attracted to those who influence other people ... ah, vigorously-at full tilt.

Dr. N: Are you a soul who enjoys controlling other people?

S: I wouldn't say control, exactly. I avoid choosing to be people who have no intense involvement with those around them.

Dr. N: Sumus, aren't you being controlling when you try to direct other souls in their lives?

S: (no response)

Dr. N: What would Jor say about your human relationships?

S: Hmm ... that I like power as a means of influencing the acts of humans who are decision makers. That I crave social and political groups where I lead.

Dr. N: So, you would not enjoy being in a human body which was quiet and unassuming?

S: Definitely not.

Dr. N: (I push harder) Sumus, isn't it true you took pleasure in the way you were a part of Haroum's misuse of power in Arabia, and that you gain satisfaction as Steve from mistreating your employees in Texas?

S: (loudly) No, that isn't true! Things get out of hand easily when you try to lead humans. It's the conditions on Earth which screw everything up. It isn't all my fault.