She said, “They didn’t go with us. They came up, I don’t know, if it was the next day or a couple of days later.”
She also said that they had cleaned the field and picked up all the debris. She said that they had it all. There was nothing for Marcel or Cavitt to see when they went to the field. In fact, in talking with ranchers in the area about this debris, whether from a Mogul balloon array or an alien spacecraft, I learned that they would not allow this sort of thing to remain out there. The animals had a habit of eating things like that as part of their grazing and if the animals eat it, it would make them sick. Brazel would clean it up as quickly as possible.
If we believe Bessie, then her father (seen here) did not clean it up right away, but did within a couple of days. Yet, we know that when Marcel arrived, there was a large field filled with debris. And, if we want to reject the testimony of Marcel, there is Cavitt. While his description of the debris field suggests it was smaller than that suggested by Marcel, he still said there was debris out there for them to find and for him to identify as the remains of a balloon.
So, Bessie’s story is contradicted by both Marcel and Cavitt, one who thought it was a spacecraft and one who said it was a balloon. It doesn’t matter which side of the fence you come down on, there is testimony to contradict what Bessie remembers. She is stand alone on this.
Bessie also said that her father didn’t return to Roswell a day or so later and there is nothing in her affidavit to suggest otherwise. She added, telling Kirby and Newman that if he had gone to Roswell and didn’t return for three or four days, there would have been hell to pay. There was no reason for him to return to Roswell after they all had gone there earlier in the week.
But once again, there is evidence that such is not the case. First, and probably best, is the article that appeared in the Roswell Daily Recordon July 9. Mack Brazel was photographed while there. He gave an interview to two AP reporters at the newspaper office in Roswell who had been ordered there from Albuquerque. Clearly, he returned to Roswell at some point. Bessie’s memory of the events is wrong about his not returning.
Major Edwin Easley (seen here) was the provost marshal in Roswell in 1947. He told me that Mack Brazel had been held in the guest house for several days. Brazel said he was in jail and I suppose that if you’re not allowed to leave without escort, and that the doors are locked, then being in the guest house is about the same thing.
Bill Brazel, Bessie’s older brother told me that he saw an article about his father in one of the Albuquerque newspapers and realized that his father needed help. When Bill (Brazel, seen here) arrived at the ranch, his father was not there and didn’t return for three or four days. In fact, according to Bill, there was no one at the ranch at that time.
Neighbors like Marian Strickland told me that Mack had complained to her about being held in jail. Although she didn’t see Mack until after the events, she did say that he sat in her kitchen complaining about being held in Roswell. While there is some second-hand aspect in this, Strickland was telling me that Mack complained to her and her husband that he had been held in Roswell.
Walt Whitmore, Jr., son of the KGFL radio’s majority owner, told me that he had run into Brazel early in the morning after Brazel spent the night at his father’s house. This was before Brazel was taken out to the base. Whitmore claims that Brazel told him about the debris an Whitmore said that he then drove out there to see the field. He claimed to have picked up some of the debris, which he said was part of a balloon. He kept it for years, he said, but when the time came to produce it, he could not.
Here’s another important point. Bessie said that she recognized the material as a balloon. So, we have a 14-year-old girl who knows a balloon when she sees one, but the air intelligence officer, not to mention several others, are incapable of this. If the material was so readily identifiable to some, especially civilians, why were so many in the military fooled? And why the high powered effort to recover it, if it was only a balloon?
What this means, simply, is that there are a number of witnesses and a newspaper articles that shows that Mack was in Roswell overnight. It means that Bessie’s memories of July 1947 agree with nothing else. It means that when all the evidence is aligned against a specific claim, we must reject the claim.
I’m sure that Bessie was trying to help and I’m equally sure that she is mistaken about these events. There are too many facts and too many witnesses who contradict her story. It is possible that she is right and everyone else is wrong, but it’s not very likely.
In fact, in the months before her death, she suggested that what she hd remembered had nothing to do with the UFO crash, but was, in fact, from another time. She believed that she had been mistaken. Her testimony about the events, which had been judged unlikely during the investigation, are now something to be studied and examined, but in the light of all that she said.
Boldra and Kromschroeder
According to the information that I have, Major Ellis Boldra, an engineer stationed at Roswell after the UFO crash, discovered samples of the debris in a safe in the engineering office in 1952. In the course of his experiments with it, he tried to burn and melt part of it with an acetylene torch but it only got warm and didn’t glow. He tried to cut it with a variety of tools but failed. He described it to others as being extremely thin and when crumpled, it would quicky return to its original shape. One of Boldra’s friends said that it wasn’t any kind of metal that he could identify.
Dr. John Kromschroeder told me in an interview in interviews conducted in July and August 1990 that he had gotten the sample from Pappy Henderson and that Henderson had gotten it from Boldra. Kromschroeder said that this sample was gray and resembled aluminum foil but was harder and stiffer. He couldn’t bend it but had to be careful because the edges were sharp. He said that it didn’t seem to have a crystalline structure based on the fracturing of it. It hadn’t been torn. He also said that when properly engergized, it produced a “perfect” illumination.
Pflock seeks to discredit Kromschroeder by suggesting that he had an interest in UFOs and in the Billy Meier contact. This is guilt by association. Now we have Henderson, who, according to Pflock is a great practical joker inventing the story of the metal and finding something that Kromschroeder would not be able to identify. It is all a great joke, according to Pflock.
But he fails to report that Sappho Henderson said, of her husband, that when someone like him tells you that he’s seen the bodies of an alien flight crew and that he flew parts of the wreckage to Wright Field, you believe him. Certainly not the picture that Pflock paints of his reliability.
So, what we have here is the story, given to Pflock that Henderson liked to play practical jokes and information from a dubious source of an interview given by an associate of Henderson that suggested he had a piece of a V-2 that he used to show people telling them it was from a flying saucer.
All this and remember that Pflock told me, and others, that his first past at having Roswell in Perspective published was rejected because it wasn’t skeptical enough. Pflock then set out to get this more skeptical information. He did this by innuendo, guilt by association, and using the information developed by a man who has proven time and again that his information is not reliable.
This is all I have on Kromschroeder and Boldra. While Kromschroeder is first hand, meaning he told it to me, Boldra is, at best, second hand, coming from Kromschroeder.