She needed no further bidding but set to with a will.
“Fabulous,” she said at last, pushing her empty plate to one side with a sigh of contentment.
“Absolutely fabulous.”
He arched a sardonic eyebrow.
“So what’s the verdict? Can I cook or can I cook?”
She laughed.
“You can cook. May I ask you something?”
He filled her empty glass.
“If you must.”
“If I hadn’t turned up would you have eaten all that yourself?”
“I might have drawn the line at one steak.” He paused.
“Then again I might not. I’ve no bookings for tonight and they don’t keep. I’d probably have eaten them both.”
She heard the trace of bitterness in his voice.
“How much longer can you stay open without customers?” she asked incautiously.
He ignored the question.
“You said you wanted to talk to me,” he reminded her.
“What about?”
She nodded. Apparently, he had no more desire than she to lick wounds in public.
“Olive Martin,” she told him.
“I’m writing a book about her. I believe you were one of the arresting officers.”
He didn’t answer immediately but sat looking at her over the rim of his wine glass.
“Why Olive Martin?”
“She interests me.” It was impossible to gauge his reaction.
“Of course.” He shrugged.
“She did something completely horrific. You’d be very unnatural if you didn’t find her interesting. Have you met her?”
She nodded.
“And?”
“I like her.”
“Only because you’re naive.” He stretched his long arms towards the ceiling, cracking the joints in his shoulders.
“You steeled yourself to delve in the sewer, expecting to pull out a monster, and you’ve landed yourself something comparatively pleasant instead. Olive’s not unusual in that. Most criminals are pleasant most of the time. Ask any prison officer. They know better than anyone that the penal system relies almost entirely on the goodwill of the prisoners.” His eyes narrowed.
“But Olive hacked two completely innocent women to death. The fact that she presents a human face to you now doesn’t make what she did any less horrific.”
“Have I said it does?”
“You’re writing a book about her. Even if you castigate her, she will still be something of a celebrity.” He leaned forward, his tone unfriendly.
“But what about her mother and sister?
Where is the justice for them in giving their murderer the thrill and the kudos of being written about?”
Roz dropped her eyes.
“It does worry me,” she admitted.
“No, that’s wrong.” She looked up.
“It did worry me. I’m a little more sure now of where I’m heading. But I take your point about her victims. It’s all too easy to focus on Olive. She’s alive and they’re dead, and the dead are difficult to recreate.
You have to rely on what other people tell you, and just as their perceptions at the time were not always accurate, neither are their memories now.” She sighed.
“I still have reservations there’s no point in pretending I don’t but I need to understand what happened that day before I can make up my mind.” She fingered the stem of her wine glass.
“I think I may very well be naive but I’d need convincing that that is a bad thing. I could argue, with considerable justification, that anyone delving regularly in sewers must come up jaundiced.”
“What’s that supposed to mean?” He was amused.
She looked at him again.
“That what Olive did shocks you but doesn’t surprise you. You’ve known, or known of, other people who’ve done similar things before.”
“So?”
“So you never established why she did it. Whereas I, being naive’ she held his gaze ‘am surprised as well as shocked and I want to know why.”
He frowned.
“It’s all in her statement. I can’t remember the exact details now, but she resented not being given a birthday party, I think, and then blew a fuse when her mother got angry with her for persuading the sister to ring in sick the next day.
Domestic violence erupts over the most trivial things. Olive’s motives were rather more substantial than some I’ve known.”
Roz bent down to open her briefcase.
“I’ve a copy of her statement here.” She handed it across and waited while he read it through.
“I can’t see your problem,” he said at last.
“She makes it dear as crystal why she did it. She got angry, hit them, and then didn’t know how to dispose of the bodies.”
“That’s what she says, I agree, but it doesn’t mean it’s true.
There’s at least one blatant lie in that statement and possibly two.”
She tapped her pencil on the table.
“In the first paragraph she says that her relationship with her mother and sister had never been close but that’s been flatly contradicted by everyone I’ve spoken to. They all say she was devoted to Amber.”
He frowned again.
“What’s the other lie?”
She leaned over with her pencil and put a line by one of the middle paragraphs.
“She says she held a mirror to their lips to see if there was any mist.
According to her, there wasn’t, so she proceeded to dismember the bodies.” She turned the pages over.
“But here, according to the pathologist, Mrs. Martin put up a struggle to defend herself before her throat was cut. Olive makes no mention of that in her statement.”
He shook his head.
“That doesn’t mean a damn thing. Either she decided to put a gloss on the whole affair out of belated shame, or shock simply blotted the less acceptable bits out of her memory.”
“And the lie about not getting on with Amber? How do you explain that away?”
“Do I need to? The confession was completely voluntary. We even made her wait until her solicitor arrived to avoid any hint of police pressure.” He drained his glass.
“And you’re not going to try and argue that an innocent woman would confess to a crime like this?”
“It’s happened before.”
“Only after days of police interrogation and then, when it comes to the trial, they plead not guilty and deny their statement.
Olive did neither.” He looked amused.
“Take it from me, she was so damned relieved to get it all off her chest she couldn’t confess fast enough.”
“How? Did she deliver a monologue or did you have to ask questions?”
He clasped his hands behind his neck.
“Unless she’s changed a great deal I should imagine you’ve already discovered that Olive doesn’t volunteer information easily.” He cocked his head enquiringly.
“We had to ask questions but she answered them readily enough.” He looked thoughtful.
“For most of the time she sat and stared at us as if she were trying to engrave our faces on her memory. To be honest, I live in terror of her getting out and doing to me what she did to her family.”
“Five minutes ago you described her as comparatively pleasant.”
He rubbed his jaw.
“Comparatively pleasant as far as you were concerned,” he corrected her.
“But you were expecting something inhuman, which is why you find it difficult to be objective.”
Roz refused to be drawn again down this blind alley. Instead she took her recorder from her briefcase and put it on the table.
“Can I tape this conversation?”
“I haven’t agreed to talk to you yet.” He stood up abruptly and filled a kettle with water. You’d do better,” he said after a moment, ‘to ring Detective Sergeant Wyatt. He was there when she gave her statement, and he’s still on the Force. Coffee?”
“Please.” She watched him select a dark Arabica and spoon the grounds into a cafetiere.
“I really would rather talk to you,” she said evenly.
“Policemen are notoriously difficult to pin down. It could take me weeks to get an interview with him. I won’t quote you, I won’t even name you, if you’d rather I didn’t, and you can read the final draught before it goes to print.” She gave a hollow laugh.