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I said, “Mrs. Thal?”

“Yes?”

“My name is Matthew Scudder. I’d like to talk to you about Wendy Hanniford.”

There was a long silence, and I wondered if I had the right person after all. I’d found a stack of old magazines in a closet of Wendy’s apartment with Marcia Maisel’s name and the Bethune Street address on them. It was possible that there had been a false connection somewhere along the way — the postal clerk could have pulled the wrong Maisel, the superintendent could have picked the wrong card out of his file.

Then she said, “What do you want from me?”

“I want to ask you a few questions.”

“Why me?”

“You lived in the Bethune Street apartment with her.”

“That was a long time ago.” Long ago, and in another country. And besides, the wench is dead. “I haven’t seen Wendy in years. I don’t even know if I would recognize her. Would have recognized her.”

“But you did know her at one time.”

“So what? Would you hold on? I have to get a cigarette.” I held on. She returned after a moment and said, “I read about it in the newspapers, of course. The boy who did it killed himself, didn’t he?”

“Yes.”

“Then why drag me into it?”

The fact that she didn’t want to be dragged into it was almost reason enough in itself. But I explained the nature of my particular mission, Cale Hanniford’s need to know about the recent past of his daughter now that she had no future. When I had finished she told me that she guessed she could answer some questions.

“You moved from Bethune Street to East Eighty-fourth Street a year ago last June.”

“How do you know so much about me? Never mind, go on.”

“I wondered why you moved.”

“I wanted a place of my own.”

“I see.”

“Plus it was nearer my work. I had a job on the East Side, and it was a hassle getting there from the Village.”

“How did you happen to room with Wendy in the first place?”

“She had an apartment that was too big for her, and I needed a place to stay. It seemed like a good idea at the time.”

“But it didn’t turn out to be a good idea?”

“Well, the location, and also I like my privacy.”

She was going to give me whatever answers would get rid of me most efficiently. I wished I were talking to her face-to-face instead of over the telephone. At the same time I hoped I wouldn’t have to kill a day driving out to Mamaroneck.

“How did you happen to share the apartment?”

“I just told you, she had a place—”

“Did you answer an ad?”

“Oh, I see what you mean. No, I ran into her on the street, as a matter of fact.”

“You had known her previously?”

“Oh, I thought you realized. I knew her at college. I didn’t know her well, we were never close, see, but it was a small college and everybody more or less knew everybody, and I ran into her on the street and we got to talking.”

“You knew her at college.”

“Yeah, I thought you realized. You seem to know so many facts about me, I’m surprised you didn’t know that.”

“I’d like to come out and talk with you, Mrs. Thal.”

“Oh, I don’t think so.”

“I realize it’s an imposition on your time, but—”

“I just don’t want to get involved,” she said. “Can’t you understand that? Jesus Christ, Wendy’s dead, right? So what can it help her? Right?”

“Mrs. Thal—”

“I’m hanging up now,” she said. And did.

I bought a newspaper, went to a lunch counter and had a cup of coffee. I gave her a full half hour to wonder whether or not I was all that easy to get rid of. Then I dialed her number again.

Something I learned long ago. It is not necessary to know what a person is afraid of. It is enough to know the person is afraid.

She answered in the middle of the second ring. She held the phone to her ear for a moment without saying anything. Then she said, “Hello?”

“This is Scudder.”

“Listen, I don’t—”

“Shut up a minute, you foolish bitch. I intend to talk to you. I’ll either talk to you in front of your husband or I’ll talk to you alone.”

Silence.

“Now you just think about it. I can pick up a car and be in Mamaroneck in an hour. An hour after that I’ll be back in my car and out of your life. That’s the easy way. If you want it the hard way I can oblige you but I don’t see that it makes much sense for either of us.”

“Oh, God.”

I let her think about it. The hook was set now, and there was no way she was going to shake it loose.

She said, “Today’s impossible. Some friends are coming over for coffee, they’ll be here any minute.”

“Tonight?”

“No. Gerry’ll be home. Tomorrow?”

“Morning or afternoon?”

“I have a doctor’s appointment at ten. I’m free after that.”

“I’ll be at your place at noon.”

“No. Wait a minute. I don’t want you coming to the house.”

“Pick a place and I’ll meet you.”

“Just give me a minute. Christ. I don’t even know this area, we just moved here a few months ago. Let me think. There’s a restaurant and cocktail lounge on Schuyler Boulevard. It’s called the Carioca. I could stop there for lunch after I get out of the doctor’s.”

“Noon?”

“All right. I don’t know the address.”

“I’ll find it. The Carioca on Schuyler Boulevard.”

“Yes. I don’t remember your name.”

“Scudder. Matthew Scudder.”

“How will I recognize you?”

I thought, I’ll be the man who looks out of place. I said, “I’ll be drinking coffee at the bar.”

“All right. I guess we’ll find each other.”

“I’m sure we will.”

My illegal entry the night before had yielded little hard data beyond Marcia Maisel’s name. The search of the premises had been complicated by my not knowing precisely what I was searching for. When you toss a place, it helps if you have something specific in mind. It also helps if you don’t care whether or not you leave traces of your visit. You can search a few shelves of books far more efficiently, for example, if you feel free to flip through them and then toss them in a heap on the rug. A twenty-minute job stretches out over a couple of hours when you have to put each volume neatly back in place.

There were few enough books in Wendy’s apartment, and I hadn’t bothered with them, anyway. I wasn’t looking for something which had been deliberately concealed. I didn’t know what I was looking for, and now, after the fact, I wasn’t at all sure what I had found.

I had spent most of my hour wandering through those rooms, sitting on chairs, leaning against walls, trying to rub up against the essence of the two people who had lived here. I looked at the bed Wendy had died on, a double box spring and mattress on a Hollywood frame. They had not yet stripped off the blood-soaked sheets, though there would be little point in doing so; the mattress was deeply soaked with her blood, and the whole bed would have to be scrapped. At one point I stood holding a clot of rusty blood in my hand, and my mind reeled with images of a priest offering Communion. I found the bathroom and gagged without bringing anything up.

While I was there, I pushed the shower curtain aside and examined the tub. There was a ring around it from the last bath taken in it, and some hair matted at the drain, but there was nothing to suggest that anyone had been killed in it. I had not suspected that there would be. Richie Vanderpoel’s recapitulation had not been a model of concise linear thought.

The medicine cabinet told me that Wendy had taken birth-control pills. They came in a little card with a dial indicating the days of the week so that you could tell whether you were up-to-date or not. Thursday’s pill was gone, so I knew one thing she had done the day she died. She had taken her pill.