They called the military and they told them they wanted all their tapes. The FAA controls all the airspace above the United States and its territory. It doesn’t belong to the military… the guys shooting the rockets off. It belongs to the United States Government and it is controlled by the FAA.
The military said they were short on their tapes and they had to put them back in service.
I thought it was mysterious that the military tapes disappeared. It wasn’t right. We went from thirty days to fifteen days for the time period required to keep radar tapes, and the first indication makes it look like the military knew more than we did about who the visitors were and they didn’t want anybody else to know. And of course, the people that are involved at the lower levels don’t really know what is going on above them. When someone calls up and says put those tapes back in service, they just put them back in service. They really don’t care.
The FAA Administrator sent my boss, who was the associate director of the FAA, and me to Atlantic City to look at this thing to see if he had something to worry about. It took us two days to look at all the data. We went in and told him we wanted this room set up to be just like it was in Anchorage during the encounter, and we wanted all that data to come to this radar scope so we could see and hear everything the controller saw.
Some of the people that were working on that side of the fence and who were displaying this, had already reviewed the tapes, and they didn’t feel comfortable showing us what was on there. But we looked at all of it.
The Japanese Airline 747 was coming from the northwest across Alaskan territory at an altitude between 31,000 and 35,000 feet. It was around eleven o’clock at night. The pilot had asked the Controller if there was any traffic at his altitude. And the Controller said, no. The pilot replied that he had a target at his eleven o’clock or one o’clock position about eight miles away.
Now in the 747 they have radar in the nose that picks up the weather, so his radar was picking up a large target. The pilot saw the target with his eyes. And the target, the way he described it, was a huge ball with lights running around it―four times the size of the 747!
The military controller said, “I see him thirty-five miles north of Anchorage. Who’s that at eleven o’clock or one o’clock in his position? The FAA Controller said, “I don’t have anybody [any regular traffic]? Do you have anybody? The military controller said, “It’s not mine, all our traffic is on the west side.”
A couple of times during the operation, the Japanese pilot would say, “He’s now at eleven o’clock… he’s now at one o’clock… he’s now at three o’clock.” The UFO was bouncing around the 747. When he would say that, the military controller would cut in and confirm the position. The military controller has height-finding radar, and they have long-range radar and short-range radar. So if they don’t catch it on one of their systems they catch it on the other. If you listen to the military controller, at one time he said, “I have it on the height radar, or my range radar,” which indicated that they had a target on his system.
Well, this went on for thirty-one minutes. The UFO would be in one position or the other following the Japanese 747. After a while they changed his altitude and it still stayed with him. They gave him a 360 [turn]. When you are a 747 and you make a 360, it takes you a few minutes to turn around. You cover a lot of space. And it still stayed with him. It was either in the front, on the side, or behind him. They would see it at one o’clock, seven or eight miles in front of the 747. And then on the next sweep [ten seconds later], it would be behind him, seven or eight miles.
It always stayed seven or eight miles away from the target.
[Note the familiar non-linear maneuvers of this UFO, covering many miles in less than 10 seconds. This is corroborated by dozens of other UFO-radar events in the testimony of many other witnesses. See the book Disclosure: Military and Government Witnesses Reveal the Greatest Secrets in Modern History by Steven M. Greer, M.D. and witness testimony at: www.youtube.com/user/SDisclosure ―SG]
At the end, when the Japanese 747 was leaving the airspace, there was a United Airlines flight coming up to land in Alaska. The Controller told the United pilot that the Japanese 747 was being chased by a UFO and he’d like to leave him at that altitude to check him out. The United pilot said, “Fine… sure.”
So they gave him a left turn, 20 degrees or so, kept him at his altitude and they kind of ran him in toward the Japanese 747.
Once the two airplanes passed, the UFO followed the United [flight] down through the airspace until its final approach, and then the UFO just disappeared.
When they read the reports, the FAA decided it had to protect itself―you can’t say you saw a target, even though this is what he said. So they made him change his report to say “position symbols,” which makes it sound like it wasn’t really a target. Well if it’s not a target, then a lot of the other position symbols that we are separating on radar aren’t targets either. And when I read that, I thought, “Oh, there is something fishy here, either somebody is worried about something, or they are trying to cover something up.”
We returned to Washington the next day. The FAA Administrator called down and wanted to know if he had a problem or not. My boss told him, “We took video of it and it looks like there might have been something there.” The FAA Administrator asked us to come up and present a quick five-minute run-down of what happened.
So headed upstairs to the tenth floor of FAA Headquarters in Washington, D.C. and gave a five minute debriefing for the Administrator, who was at the time Admiral Engen. He wanted to watch the video, so we plugged it in for him.
After about five minutes he told his staff to cancel his meetings. Then he watched the rest―just over a half an hour.
When it was over, the admiral asked us what we thought. My boss gave a good political answer and he said he wasn’t sure what it was. The admiral told us not to talk to anybody until he gave us the okay.
Then the next day I got a call from someone with the Scientific Study Group, from either President Reagan or the CIA, who had questions about the incident. I said, “I don’t know what you are talking about; you probably want to call Admiral Engen.”
A few minutes later the Admiral called down to let us know he had set up a briefing for the next morning at nine o’clock in the round room, and to bring all the stuff we had and give them whatever they wanted.
Essentially, the FAA wanted to get out of it.
So I brought up all the people from the Tech Center, who had all kinds of boxes of data that we had them print out―enough to fill the room. They brought in three people from the FBI, three people from the CIA, and three people from Reagan’s Scientific Study team―I don’t know who the rest of the people were but they were all excited.
We let them watch the video. Then they had all kinds of questions about the frequency, the rate of the antennae turning, how many radars and antennas, how did the data get processed. They were all excited―this being the first time they ever had thirty minutes of radar data on a UFO.
When they asked me what I thought, I told them that it looked like we had a UFO that was up there. The reason it wasn’t consistently on the FAA’s tapes was because it was too large of an aircraft, and it was picked up as weather so we wouldn’t record it (the system is programmed to filter out such things). The Japanese pilot did see it and even drew pictures of it.
They eventually gave him a hard time because of what he said… that he was embarrassing his country.