Normally in the investigative field, you have an allegation of something, or in the case of a UFO, a sighting. You carry it through to its conclusion and a result.
When an object is moving a few thousand miles an hour, twelve to fourteen minutes is a tremendous amount of time. I do remember speeds in excess of 4,000 to 5,000 miles an hour, which were far in excess of any known aircraft that we had or any of the enemies had. Being an Intelligence Officer, one of my responsibilities was to have at least a rough idea of enemy capabilities and of their equipment.
Once, we flew into Nellis Air Force Base and another pilot and I were flying a Gooney Bird (C-47A Skytrain). The sky was totally clear. And an object went across southwest to northeast and it transited the entire heaven, looking at it from my right, and it went out of sight on the left in less than fifteen seconds. It was moving at a speed that I couldn’t even begin to calculate. It was certainly no satellite. It was a controlled object in flight.
Some of the objects reported were tracked on radar. We had objects with four-way confirmation, ground visual, ground radar, airborne visual, airborne radar. And so far as I’m concerned, it doesn’t get any better than that. You are not talking about someone’s imagination. And in this same timeframe, I heard so-called experts that the Air Force brought in concoct stories, from swamp gas to things like that. If it’s an aircraft with wings, then the laws of aerodynamics apply, and you don’t stop that thing and reverse it in a blink of an eye. And things like that did occur.
Later when I was in Britain, they were having a NATO exercise out in the North Sea area. And a couple of these little friendly balls of light got in the traffic pattern. Well, you can imagine what happened when they flew over the deck without landing, needless to say. And it threw the Navy into absolute consternation. Well, the newspapers picked it up, and in those days, they were able to talk to the sailors and the airmen involved. And everyone is screaming for an investigation.
President Truman knew about these objects. I’ve seen radar photographs of organized lights of unidentified objects, balls of light, if you will, over the White House. Now the airborne visual, strangely enough, by the time you get a couple of fighters down there, those things apparently disappeared whenever they wanted to.
Truman saw all of the newspaper headlines and said, “I want the man who is responsible for investigating these things.” Someone said, “General Sanford is the Chief of Air Force Intelligence.” The president replied, “Is he the guy that’s handling the investigation?” They said, “No sir. That would be a man out at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base.”
So they flew me to Washington.
It is sort of strange, but we send people to prison, we send people to their death because of eyewitness accounts of crimes. Our legal system is based on that to a large degree. Yet in my following of unusual aerial phenomena for the past 50 years, there seems to be some reason to discredit very viable and very reputable witnesses when they say something is unidentified. Well, you show me the individual who can identify everything in the heavens, and I will show you the Second Coming. Because I don’t care how technically qualified you are―for someone who is not there to voice an opinion and say they saw such and such is nonsense. And my question is: What qualified them to be experts? And I have a real problem with that.
I truly believe that these phenomena have been visiting this planet long before Project Grudge. I think there is adequate evidence of it. And the more we learn about the universe, the more we realize how little we truly know. And so the advance of science is something that has to keep evolving and we have to keep learning.
Sergeant Clifford Stone, U.S. Army, has seen living and dead extraterrestrials himself in his official duties on an army team that retrieved crashed ET crafts. He has been given access to black ops bases and secret access projects.
In the 1950s, the United States Air Force had an elite unit to investigate UFOs outside of Bluebook. Even though Bluebook felt that this unit was working with them, they were not. This unit was initially organized as the 4602nd Air Intelligence Service Squadron. Among its peacetime missions was Operation Blue Fly. The objective of Operation Blue Fly was to recover objects of unknown origin that fell to Earth. It is very important that you remember these were specifically objects that fell to Earth, because we didn’t have any spacecraft up there at this time. As a result of this, they had monitors right there at Wright-Patterson that when UFO reports came in, they were looked at very closely to see if there was any possible necessity of sending out teams to recover any of this fallen debris.
The Air Force states they never used them. I’m telling you I know they did. But the intent of the Operation Blue Fly peacetime project was to go out and recover objects of unknown origin that impacted with the Earth. Later it would be expanded in 1957 to cover all objects of unknown origin meaning spacecraft too. And it would become part of what they would call in the October of 1957 timeframe, Project Moon Dust. [See Marilyn Monroe document.]
Project Moon Dust was established to recover only two items: First, objects of non-U.S. origin that survived re-entry into the atmosphere and their impact with the Earth. The other area of interest was objects of unknown origin. Naturally, we would be interested in those items from a technical, scientific intelligence basis to ascertain the technical capabilities of any potential enemy since our known enemy of the U.S., the U.S.S.R. at that time, was launching vehicles into space.
Now we find that there were quite a few objects of unknown origin that did not correlate with any known space launches, impact times, or any known space debris falling back to Earth.
In short, under Project Moon Dust and under Blue Fly, we have recovered alien debris not of this Earth.
The degree of classification that we have now has changed over the years. Back during the time of the second World War all the way up to, say 1969, you may have had as many as eleven classifications. Now there are three: confidential, secret and top-secret. However, if you have information that is highly sensitive that requires protection above and beyond the norm of what is provided for those classifications, that’s when you have the Special Access Programs. You do not get that type of information out into public domain unless it is officially sanctioned.
During the discussion of UFOs, the question ultimately is going to come up: Can any government keep secrets, let alone the U.S. Government? And the answer to that is unequivocally yes. But one of the greatest weapons the intelligence community has at their disposal is a predisposition by the American people, the American politicians, and the debunkers―people who wish to try to debunk UFO information. They immediately come out and say, “Oh we can’t keep secrets.” Well, the truth is, yes, we can.
The National Reconnaissance Office remained secret for many, many years. The mere existence of the NSA remained secret. The development of the atomic weapon remained secret until once you exploded one you eventually had to tell some people what was going on.
And we are conditioned by our own paradigms not to accept the possibility or probability of a highly advanced intelligent civilization coming here to visit us. You have evidence in the form of highly credible reports of objects being seen, of the entities inside these objects being seen. Yet, we look for a prosaic explanation and we throw out the bits and pieces of the evidence that do not meet our paradigm. So it is a self-keeping secret. You can conceal it in plain sight. It is political suicide to go and start hitting up intelligence agencies to get this information released. So most of your members of Congress, and I know I’ve worked with a lot of them along that line, will balk and try not to do it. I can name you three members of Congress that were point blank asked to have a congressional inquiry on what happened here at Roswell.